But surely the same can be said of the police? Should their overall benign behaviour, their paid service to the community, their dealing with crimes and criminals on our behalf, should all that justify the manhandling of Lim? The answer is no. Should Lim be allowed to remain on premises? The answer to the latter must also be no. Why didn’t Lim move on when requested to do so? Peter Butler, Wyongah
When Lim was approached by security at the QVB, which is private property, he was asked to move off that property. Reportedly he told the security staff that he would not and that they should call the police. Remember – he was on private property. The NSW constabulary issued him a lawful “move along” directive. If you or I were told to move along from private property, then we should “move along”. What were police supposed to do? Let Lim stay, unlawfully, on private property or attempt to have him move along? Lim has gamed the system for some time now. He can say what he wants on public property, but when on private property he must obey the law. It doesn’t matter whether you agree with him or not, but if he turns up in your front yard and acts objectionably, why should the police not be able to take action? Doug Richards, Tamarama
Here’s another letter, not so much approving of how two policemen arrested Lim, but approving that they did. Jenny Greenwood, Hunters Hill
It was certainly confronting to see the footage of the police take down of Danny Lim and photos of his subsequent injuries. I seem to remember that such take-downs, sweeping the feet from under a standing person, have been used by NSW Police before with similar injuries resulting to the person being apprehended when their head hits a hard surface. It is past time for a review of such tactics, and hopefully, they are never to be used again. Merilyn McClung, Forestville
The reaction to the rough treatment inflicted on Lim is a healthy call-out for the need to allow objectors to irritate us. History has a habit of overriding our priggish desire for decent behaviour in public. Diogenes, the ancient exponent of Cynic philosophy, reputedly lived in a barrel and behaved rudely in public. When Alexander the Great stood in front of him and asked what he could do for him, he tartly responded: “Get out of my sunlight!” Historians are currently re-evaluating Alexander’s legacy, but the cynic school of thinking is alive and well today. John Court, Denistone
Icare’s unwanted Christmas present
So from Christmas Day around 400 workers who continue to suffer from injuries received on the job will have their benefits cut or “transferred” to the disability pension. So much for the meaning of “icare” (“Injured worker Greg Dayman cut off from benefits on Christmas Day”, November 24). And all the while icare executives are lining their own pockets. What on earth does one do earn the best part of one million dollars? Workers’ rights in this country are being whittled away by corporate greed. Genevieve Milton, Newtown
The NSW government appears to be a soft touch giving huge pay increases to icare senior staff failing to do their job. Now it transpires they are paying the rent and school fees for our London agent-general who doesn’t think his $600,000 salary should be put towards these basic living costs.
Lorraine Phillips, Wollongong
Oh to be a fly on the wall
This article highlights a number of issues from the need for an effective federal ICAC, ministerial standards becoming member standards, limiting donations to political parties to persons entitled to vote and to stop politicians being referred to as honourable or right honourable when they are clearly outdated words that have little relevance (“MP gave ‘secret advice”’, November 24). John Afford, Hornsby
I wonder what lobbyists and their politician friends do talk about when they get together. Stuart Robert would have us believe they confine themselves to sport and the weather. Risible.
Colin Stokes, Camperdown
Menopause debate must be widened
Cherie Gilmour offers a positive way forward for women suffering and needing period leave and even offers consideration for those working at home with young children. (“In the post-glacial period, women finally get leave to be women”, November 24). Yet it is in the latter stages of the menstruation life where many older women unknowingly suffer and also need consideration for changing body effects. Menopause is suffered for years and most women (and some men) suffer in silence because it is unspoken. Few women really understand the mood changes and body issues while it is happening and relationships may be damaged in the meantime. Consideration for older women and early menopause sufferers must also be considered or at least talked about in polite conversation and the media. Janice Creenaune, Austinmer
Socceroos’ 18-minute surrender
For 18 minutes the Socceroos showed that they can be a class act on the soccer pitch (“Roo awakening, but World Cup campaign not over for Australia”, November 24). What they no doubt learnt from their encounter with France is that a game lasts for 90 minutes not 18. Whether they can repair that short-coming remains to be seen. I think they can, so look out Tunisia. Go the Socceroos!
Allan Johnson, Maroubra
RBA needs assistance on economy
I can’t let the comment on the RBA governor Philip Lowe go unchallenged (Letters, November 24). Yes, it is a pity that Lowe put it out there, when he anticipated that interest rates would remain low until 2024. However, with all the complexities involved in an economy, and factors that arrive from left field, being left to run an economy, using purely monetary policy is virtually impossible. Notwithstanding all the publicity that the RBA endures, it is not up to the RBA to run the economy – it is the government of the day. The RBA is supposed to merely set interest rates in tune with government policy. And therein lies the problem. The previous government didn’t have a policy of any description – for almost a decade it had no policies. The RBA was landed with the lot. To date, the current government also, hasn’t grabbed the mettle and joined with the RBA in setting future direction. Stewart Copper, Maroubra
Public schools should be co-ed
See the damage that the last 50 years of creeping privatisation of schooling has done (“NSW students promised access to co-ed high schools under Labor plan”, November 23). The proliferation of private single-sex schools has driven the public sector to copy their model. So now, with a proliferation of school types all vying for the same students we have to build more and more schools – public and private – to cover everyone’s “choice”. Consequently, the fixed costs of school infrastructure has become bloated. It’s time to make public schools co educational for all and remove government funding for private schools that can respond to the “choice” mantra of the aspirational classes as they wish. David McMaster, Mosman
Hybrid cars put to good use
Your correspondent was surprised to have plug-in hybrids included in the new tax breaks for electric vehicles (Letters, November 24). As a driver of one for more than seven years, I can assure him that the benefits are real and those vehicles are a perfect solution for many during the transition period to fully electric transport. It may well be another decade before it will be feasible for many people to rely on sufficient charging facilities for their needs. We drive mostly electric and are still able to drive long distances without worrying about charging en-route. The fully electric range of plug-in hybrids is adequate for most people’s daily use, so the benefits to the environment are very much the same as a full EV. Horst Leykam, Dee Why
In reply to the comments about no longer needing plug in hybrid cars because of the increased range of EVs, I drove back from Adelaide to Canberra over two days last week. The small town I stayed in overnight had no facilities to recharge an EV and I was forced to take a 200 kilometre detour on day two because of flooding, that took me through a single town of under 500 people. I would have been stranded in an EV and I doubt the NRMA has portable recharging capacity. I still drive a petrol car and would be reluctant to invest in a fully electric vehicle at this stage but a hybrid is becoming more attractive. Suzanne Parkinson, Deakin (ACT)
When it comes to correct pronunciation, the first Qatar’s the deepest (Letters, November 24).
Chris Roylance, Paddington
I suspect it’s difficult to pronounce that country’s name because their human rights record leaves one gasping for breath. Peter Fyfe, Enmore
Subtle gender lessons from birth
Apparently clothes and toys are not enough to neutralise the teaching of gender roles (Letters, November 24). Our babies are given these lessons in subtle forms from the first time we pick them up. Research tells us we hold baby girls more carefully than we handle boys, as though they are more fragile. Every time we interact with babies and older toddlers, we send subtle messages about what it means to be a boy or girl. Our unconscious conditioning is much more covert in conveying expectations. Lynne Scouller, Hurlstone Park
Regarding the gender orientation theme of late, my granddaughter, barely out of toddler land, asked her family gathering to help her name her new female kitten. Being a clever dick I suggested the name “Thug”. After a few moments of innocent contemplation she asserted that “thug” was a boy’s name. And could I try again. Thanks, Mia. I am still trying. Joe Whitcombe, Bronte
The digital view
Online comment from one of the stories that attracted the most reader feedback yesterday on smh.com.au
‘Bregret’: Britons are showing signs of Brexit buyer’s remorse
From snowy1: ″Would the EU want the UK back? Would you take back your ex-spouse after they divorced you?″
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